More on the Mortgage v 401(k) Debate

Today’s post not only includes a replay of what you heard on the radio this morning at MomsMakingaMillion in a show that was focused on homeownership, more specifically about how to pay down your mortgage and finance your 401(k) and includes some additional information that took place as well.

This part of the post actually appeared a couple of days ago and additional content has been added at the end.

In spite of the bleak economic news posted last week, the economy is not as bad for the majority of us as it is portrayed in the media. It is difficult however to ignore the plight our neighbors are going through, the prolonged unemployment, the forced early retirement, the underwater mortgages that are, if anything, keeping them from getting back on their feet. But the vast majority of us understand now that we need to take care of our personal finances – seemingly much more personal now than they were in the past – and that will quite possibly help the overall recovery. The more stable footing we have, the greater the chances our impact on the economy improves.

But today, I thought I’d focus on making the decisions you may have not considered: Is paying down the mortgage better than maxing out your 401(k)? We often focus on the 401(k), the self driven retirement plan many of us have at work as the be-all-to-end-all retirement plan. It comes close but only as close as your debt in retirement allows. If you are headed towards retirement with a home mortgage, calculating the net downside of that mortgage can give you even more pressure to work more, contribute more or simply put off your retirement until a later date.

In every calculation about retirement, money stands front and center to its success. But you need a place to live and the vast majority of Americans looking at retirement in the next ten-years have a house payment saddling their plans. So I thought I’d run some numbers and offer some suggestions.

Although the actual numbers vary on where you live, $200,000 is about the average home price. A 30 year mortgage with a 6% rate will cost you about $1200 a month in mortgage payments with taxes and insurance excluded. These are rough and rounded numbers. Now if you were able to make a $100 a month additional payment, $1200 divided by 12, and apply it to the principal, the savings in total interest would be about $48,000 and it would shorten the loan by over 5yrs. So an extra $100 applied to principal would turn your 30 year mortgage into a 25 year mortgage.

The math gets better the more you pay. For instance, make a thirteenth and fourteen month payment (and for these calculations to work, you need to do it every month, not just once a year – although that’s not a bad way to use the out-sized tax return) you would save almost $79,000 in interest payments and the loan would now be for 21 years. No paper work, no refinancing, no hassle and you just theoretically made $79,000.

How much would you have made had you invested the same amount in your 401(k)? Keep in mind, your mortgage is fixed at 6% and your 401(k), no matter what you invest in will have some fluctuation over time and it may never successfully return you a steady 6%. But the numbers go something like this: Invest $100 a month for 360 months at 6% return will net you a $12,000 a year income in retirement for ten-years. This means that if you are 45 and save a paltry $100 a month in your 401(k) – and I hope you are investing more than that – you will get a monthly payout for ten-years of about your mortgage payment.

But the difference is what you saved compared to what you will have to continue to pay for the loan. One allows you to enter retirement in full ownership of you house; the other gives you the ability to pay your mortgage with your retirement income. Even retirement planning neophytes can determine the benefits of having no loan and an income rather than having the income to maintain a loan.

I used an average $40,000 household income as an example and $100 as the contribution to the principal. If you were to make a contribution to your 401(k) of just $25 a week based on that income, you would come out with the results I have offered here. But if you were able to make both – a $25 a week contribution to your 401(k), which is just about 4% and make a $25 contribution to mortgage pre-payment plan, you will have only taken about $200 off the monthly budget.

The trade-off seems even but having a paid-for home in retirement gives you an great deal of economic peace of mind in terms of known worth, the potential to reverse mortgage the house and the ability to borrow against it should it come down to it. We have to live somewhere and this insures that where you live will be what you own.

And then Gina wanted to know more about my thoughts on homeownership.

Is it an asset when you still owe on it? The simple answer is no and I added that it should be considered an investment if it was or if you feel as though you have some equity. There are several reasons for this. One, most people do simple math when it comes to homeownership. They calculate what they paid for the house against the selling price. Doing this excludes years of upkeep and improvements, the interest you paid over that time and of course, inflation, which has the net effect of reducing your dollar’s worth over time. And two, an investment in its true form is actually something you can easily liquidate.

Is it better to rent or to buy? The roundabout answer is “depends on who you are”. The more specific answer is “how much HGTV have you been watching”? In truth, it has everything to do with your work. One of the main problems with owning a house, and this was made crystal clear in the current economy, is lack of mobility.

Folks who said they were underwater in their homes were basing the problem on their inability to move when they needed to, in part because the loss would have been too great a mental and financial burden to bear. (Mentally paying on the difference of the selling price on a loan that was worth more than the property and financially, because we all assume we will get something from the property to purchase another home where the job is.)

Renting gives you far more options. It gives you the ability to live relatively close to work so some costs like transportation would be eliminated. In theory, this should free up additional money to invest in your retirement plan which is an excellent resource for accumulating a downpayment on your first home. renting is often less expensive and if you run into a rough patch, you can easily downsize to accommodate and financial bumps in the road. And renting demands a more communal mindset.

Buying a home on the other hand still carries with some advantages, one of which is the tax deduction for the interest you paid. But this is quickly offset by the cost of the house. No one in my experience has ever moved into a house and not done a thing for ten-years (the time when you are paying the most in interest and when the tax deduction is at its best). Homes are, as the old saying goes: a hole in the ground you throw money into.

But in retirement, they take on a new role: the peace of mind of owning the roof over your head and being able to financially leverage it against retirement problems, most of which are not predictable can’t be beat. As a last resort, you could reverse the mortgage on your house (emphasis on last resort) and in the short-term, could be used for a loan against your equity.

Gina wanted to know whether we could or should do both, buy down the mortgage and pay our 401(k)? And she made a good point in the process that if you don’t have a mortgage payment in retirement, its almost like have twice the retirement income. Which would be nice but what it would do is allow you to retire without worry about the debt, often the largest we have, to subtract from what we need in retirement.

In this instance, it is the little steps made now that can have a huge impact thirty years from now.

 

Time for Some Financial House Cleaning

From the radio show, broadcast on 04.02.10 at 8:30 am PST.

MomsMakingaMillion: For some reason, spring is the time of year when we want to clean out the winter dreariness and usher in the new season. This is also a good time of year to take a look at your financial house and see whether it too needs a little sprucing up. Today, we are going to discuss the how-tos and what-fors of that task. From the radio show, broadcast on 04.02.10 at 8:30 am PST.

Paul Petillo: There is nothing like the feeling of spring. And we should use it to trigger some financial house cleaning. A lot like figuring out what in your closet you should toss or give to charity, using this spring-cleaning feeling to look at your finances can and should become a regular habit.

MomsMakingaMillion: The toughest thing is figuring out where to start.

Paul: Surprisingly, it doesn’t take that long. None of us goes a day without thinking about where we are in terms of how much money we have, where it is going and how do I get more. So we already know some of the answers to the question: does this old financial plan still fit?

It probably doesn’t. Most of us are mid-career and probably have a house, kids, a job or a business (which is like a job only you get to pick the sixty hours a week you work). Some of us have parents who may or may not live with us. So basically, this spring financial cleaning is a way to reorganize that closet, reprioritizing what your will need to do sooner rather than later.

MomsMakingaMillion: So where do we start?

Paul: Let’s start with the kids. You want them to go to college and you may have even been investing since they were born with the hope that you will have enough to pay for their higher education.

Just like your retirement plans, a wide swath of these 529 plans were hit with the economic downturn. This was not part of the plan and rather than blame anyone, we have to find a way to do with what is left.

First: If you don’t have the money or the money you anticipating having, do not tap your retirement account to make up the difference. Speak frankly with your child about this and tell them that either they are going to have to take a larger student loan or they are going to have to pare down their aspirations. You may be able to afford a state college and not the private institution you had hoped for. But it is up to you lay down your parameters. They probably won’t like it and claim, you promised. But don’t cave.

MomsMakingaMillion: A lot of people do.

Paul: Although your student won’t appreciate it now but the reasoning behind such tough love is simple: you don’t want to come up short in your retirement and have to move in with them!

MomsMakingaMillion: Ouch! What should we do next?

Paul: We should consider your retirement plan as a whole. Things may have changed dramatically since the last time you did this (and like that pair of jeans from high school, some things will simply not fit who and what you are anymore). Look at the house you are living in. Is it too big? Will it need some upgrades to make it more sale-able? Or do you plan on spending your golden years there? No matter which one you decide on, and this may change completely in a couple of years, figure out where you are on your mortgage. If you have a thirty-year mortgage and a retirement goal of twenty years, will you be able to continue to pay for the house, the insurances, the upkeep and the taxes with what you have socked away in your 401K?

Probably not. This mean you will either have to invest even more to make up for the shortfall or reconsider the housing/mortgage option. Keep in mind, a $50,000 a year income – with a withdrawal rate of 4%, which many feel is the number that will allow you to outlive your money – will need a $1.25 million nest egg.

MomsMakingaMillion: Shouldn’t they also consider Social Security, Pensions and any other income sources?

Paul: They should but Social Security, although I believe it will be there might not be there the way we imagined it. The pension also might se some setbacks, even some freezing. So if your primary source of retirement income is your 401(k), then focus on it. Contribute more.

MomsMakingaMillion: How much more?

Paul: This is tough one. You are older so that means, if you are following the most recommended method of scaling back on riskier equity investments and moving into something more conservative – then a lot more. The real key is to find other investments and spread the risk across a wide variety. Don’t just invest in an index fund and hope for the best.

MomsMakingaMillion: Any thing else you want to add?

Paul: If your 401K plan offers advice, take it. Some of us might want to add less risk to our portfolio without giving up the assets we already have. I like that idea best.
But just like it takes a day to clean out the closet, set aside one of those rainy spring days to clean out your financial house.

MomsMakingaMillion: And what do you have for us next week?

Paul: Perhaps we will look at what the younger working moms can do to make sure they always fit into their financial plan.

Paul Petillo is the Managing Editor of Target2025.com

Mutual Funds on MomsMakingaMillion

This is a transcript of the conversation I had on MomsMakingaMillion radio.  Each week we discuss a topic about investing.  This time we turn our attention to the mainstay of our retirement plans, the mutual fund and what few of us consider: taxes.

Kat: We have been talking about 401(k)s for a couple of months now.  But most of us don’t know what to invest in once we have them. So it would be great if we could talk about the mainstay of these accounts: the mutual fund.

Paul: I love mutual funds, always have, always will.  The concept is simple enough to understand:  You join a group of like minded investors, hire a fund manager and let him do the tough work of making you money.

Kat: Sounds so easy when you explain it like that.  But it isn’t always that easy is it?

Paul: Unfortunately no.  Even something as elegant and simple sounding as a mutual fund have all sorts of potholes and road hazards.   Mutual funds do tend to level the investment playing field but not always.

And while mutual funds have always been a somewhat difficult concept to understand, it is what we have to work with.  The vast majority of us who come into contact with these funds do so inside a 401(k).  As we have talked about it over the previous shows, 401(k)s are nothing more than a line in the tax code. So I thought we would talk about taxes.

Kat: But if our listeners have a 401(k), which is tax-deferred, do taxes matter?

Paul: Yes and no.  Yes because mutual funds can deliver tax consequences that eat away at your returns and no because if you pick the right fund, those tax events will have less of an impact on your return and that means more retirement dollars.

Kat: How do mutual funds create tax events?

Paul: Unfortunately, the same way you create them as an individual investor: by selling profitable holdings.  Mutual fund managers look for great stocks and when they find one, they hold on to it. So utterly confused tip one when looking for a good mutual fund is to find a manager who trades infrequently.

This is expressed as portfolio turnover.  If a fund manager buys and sells everything she or he owns in a given year, the turnover is 100%.  The lower the turnover, the lower the trading costs and the lower the chances are you will have to pay taxes. The higher the turnover the more likely there will be some taxes to be paid and a greater chance of lower overall returns.

But sometimes, as was experienced at the end of 2008 and into 2009, mutual fund investors, just like everyone else panicked and sold their shares in the fund as their portfolios fell in value.  When this happened, the fund manager had to give them cash and the only way they were going to get the cash was to sell something.  If it was a profitable holding, it created a tax event.

Kat: But who paid the taxes?

Paul: Also unfortunately, it was the shareholders who didn’t sell.  And sometimes the new shareholders who unwittingly bought into the fund just as the taxes were distributed.  In a mutual fund, every thing is, well, mutual: the gains, the losses and the taxes.

An older gentleman once suggested that taxes were one way to know you made money.  The question is: how do you avoid them?  Our second utterly confused tip: only buy after a scheduled distribution.  These generally take place at the end of a quarter or the end of the year.  Buy in after that, and the taxes you pay are on the shares you own, not on something that happened before you even got there.

Kat: So we look for a fund with a low turnover and buy it after the scheduled distribution.  Is there anything else we should look for?

Paul: The last utterly confused tip for mutual funds is finding a long-term manager.  This is not as easy as it sounds especially if you are locked in a plan that has only a few funds or all the funds are from the same family.  If that is the case, look for a fund with a good long-term consistent performance instead. This is one indication of stability in trading and as a result, less taxes to subtract from your return.

You may pay taxes on your gains when you retire and when you begin to take distributions, but we need to keep in mind that the fund pays taxes on its activities all along and deducts them from your returns.

Kat: How about we discuss the topic of performance next week?

Paul: That would be the perfect next step in picking the right fund.